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can anyone tell me when can I expect my Chow's 1st heat? now is about 6 months old..
Is it very smelly and very hard to maintain?
Can anyone give provide me with infos on taking care a bitch in heat?
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You can expect her to come into heat anytime from now. It's not smelly, but it is messy. There will be blood spots left from where she sits and what drips onto the floor/surface. A doggie diaper will make it less messy. But don't just let her outside, you HAVE to keep an eye on her. Males will do ANY number of things to get to a female in heat.
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Thanks for the info TipsyMum
I dont plan to get a diaper for her. you think thats ok?
She is placed at my porch with gate , I dont think any Dog can enter the compound, but there are alot of Male dogs wandering around due to some irresponsible owners which think their dog is so smart enough to poo poo on their own and go back without disturbing other ppl's life. =(
Will other male dogs come and attack when I bring my bitcch for a walk?
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You should be fine without the diaper. I NEVER got one for my girl, Tippsy. Male's won't attack, but they WILL show up. I would NOT leave her unsupervised on your porch no matter how well you think she's contained. As I said, males will do practically ANYTHING to get to a female in heat. I had a male lab mix climb a 5 ft chainlink fence with me standing right there with Tippsy and our schnauzer that was also in heat at the time.
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wow.. tats crazy.
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Yeah, but it's the reality of it all. I've also heard instances of dog breeding through fences.
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OMG? teach me how to protect my Female CHOW !!! I cant keep her inside my house.... I don't want any dogs to WHAT WHAT with her...
how will i know when she is on heat? i plan to breed her.. when is the suitable time? just *Censored Word* n go? sorry for being rude
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She should NOT be bred until she's 2 and had health checks and her hips, elbows, and eyes checked. Breeding is a BIG responsibility. A LOT goes into it. Which is why I won't ever be a breeder. All my dogs will be spayed and neutered.

I don't know what to tell you... If she's outside alone, she'll more than likely come up pregnant...
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antoniokane wrote:OMG? teach me how to protect my Female CHOW !!! I cant keep her inside my house.... I don't want any dogs to WHAT WHAT with her...
how will i know when she is on heat? i plan to breed her.. when is the suitable time? just *Censored Word* n go? sorry for being rude
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Thats exactly what I thought :-x :-x :-x
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haha.. sry guys.. but i guess i overreacted after reply from tipsymum .. i guess wont be any problem , cause houses in Malaysia is not like US/UK , we are well gated, sry, i should explain more.
ya, occasionally i sent her in to vet for check up, she got a nice set of teeth , just PLANNING , but depends on how it goes =)
so far she seem very healthy and fit, got no any genetic issue so far, the vet keep praising her for good temperament, hope the litters going to be so if she gonna have any. BTW i trained her well =) , she is a good guard dog and yet gentle with child, i got a 5 yrs old always playing with her.. @@ . now i trying to teach her how to bite properly... but my chow is still like any chow like to be dominant but guess i am a very dominant male too =D . i dont use hitting .. just pulling the skin on her neck to correct her , like how cats and dogs carry their puppies.. and trust me , it really works ! although in the beginning got a little of resistant.
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I really don't think you should breed your chow. I am
Sorry but they take a lot of work and they have to be brought up in a home environment and properly socialised. You can't just leave them out to fend for themselves. Otherwise they probably won't turn out to be very nice dogs. You have already said that you can't have your chow in the house and that she is left out on the porch all day (which I also don't agree with!!) so how are you going to be able to cope having about 5 puppies running about. They make a lot of mess and take up a he'll of a lot of time. Are you REALLY ready for that?? Please don't breed your chow

And are you SERIOUSLY trying to teach her to bite properly???? That is very irresponsible, especially witha 5 year old kid, and it is a disaster waiting to happen.

Also, I know you think that she is secure enough out on your porch, but seriously, she isn't. As tippsysmum has already said a number of times, male dogs will do literally anything to get a to a female in heat. Do you really want her getting pregnant already when she is still just a puppy herself?? She is far too young to be a mother. That is just like somebody making their 14 year old daughter go out by herself after her first menstruation and saying to all the men in the neighbourhood "here you are, come help yourselves!!". It sounds horrible, but I am sorry to say, that is the reality of it all. Just get her spayed and you won't have any of these problems. You nay think you will be able to handle it, but from your posts so far I can tell that you won't be able to.
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hey,.. thanks for ur comment but i think u are over exagratted , my house is a nice , proper house , not a hell .
If u never been to Malaysia before.. pls do not make unnecessary comment which is not relevant, my porch is kinda nice porch not really so open air, just half of it. Yes of course i can bring my dog in but no problem leaving her outside as well , comparing dogs with human is just ridiculous , maybe you doenst know how to teach your dog, well , its ok , but do not bother me k , as far as a knowledgeable dog owner should know is that , if we dont teach a dog to bite certain part of a human , it will just simply bite anywhere , the biggest disaster is not with my 5 yrs old nephew , is u making irrelevant and baseless comment ,
My chow is a very good temperament and socialble chow , i am very responsible towards my chow and that is why i am here to ask for opinion as well as sharing situation but i guess we are in different situation , i train my dog well and my dog is always my DOG , would never ever go haze-wire ( GOOD BREED) . With some training from me she really adapt well to small kids, strangers and other dogs .
Let me give u a good advice , BECKIHUTTON , remember your CHOW is a DOG , treat it like a dog no matter what , nobody will simply allow their dog run around wthout training them to obey the rules of the house ok, i guess you are the one having problem , i dont have any problem, cause my chow obey me totally , i wonder if u even manage to train your chow to eat on your call .. haha , better re-examine urself again.
Chow is a not so fast learner and kinda sturbbon at times if you are not tough enough then i guess i know why you are facing so much troubles
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Acually, I am not having any problems at all with my chow. I also have a 9 month old son, but I do not need to teach my chow how to bite, because she is never going to bite anybody. She is very friendly. And for your information, when I feed lily I make her sit and wait for my command before she goes to eat her food. She will wait as long as it takes, she will not eat that food until I yell her it is ok for her to do so. So please do not just assume that I am having problems with my chow, because I am not. I am just telling you that you cannot keep your chow outside whilst she is on heat because she will get pregnant. I am not saying that she is a human I know that she isn't I am just making a comparison. And I am suggesting that you do not breed her because I (along with many others, I am sure) do not believe that you have the knowledge required to breed a chow.
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Thanks for your concern Becki , =)
I am a chow lover like any of you here as well, so be assured that my bitch wont be touched by other dogs , no worries bout that =)
Sorry for the assumption i made towards you without understanding deeper
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1: TEACH HER NOT TO BITE AT ALL! My female is almost 11and was taught as a puppy to NEVER bite at ALL! And she has NEVER bit!

2: I don't care where you're from, leaving a dog locked on a porch is cruel.

3: Think of it this way:

Can you afford to pay to have her hips, elbows, and eyes certified, stud fees for a male who has had his hips, elbows, and eyes certified, extra food while your female is pregnant, vet bills for check ups and other things to be done while she's pregnant, for supplies to build a whelping box, a c-section should she need one to deliver the puppies, food for the puppies when they're weening, vaccinations/deworming for the puppies, emergency vet bills should anything happen(God forbid), and afford to care for any puppies for the rest of their lives should they not find homes(vet bills, food, heartworm preventative, etc...)? ANY RESPONSIBLE breeder takes ALL of this into consideration, and actually many won't breed their female unless they HAVE enough people who actually WANT a puppy.

Do NOT breed your chow if you can't do ALL of this.
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1. One of the main reason people keep dog is to guard, if u have a kid and in order to avoid him from accident would u ever stop him from driving? or would u teach him to drive properly ? dog bites occasionall , just the matter of how they bite , every dog owner knows that , whether playful bite, biting on stuffs or the violent bite, I think you should get some advice from dog profesional dog trainer b4 you comment on this. The common part a good handler would teach their dog to bite is hand in order to avoid fatal injury , and of course my Chow is a very good dog with well temperament , that is the most basic thing needed in a dog before train it to guard.
2. My dog is not locked all the time , a good dog handler will never agree with what u said , there are times dogs supposed to be locked and there are times they
should not, i juggle the time for my dog quite well .
3. I am well prepared for all this, actually my country is a very good country and i can get this at the cost of service charge which I wont feel a bite in my wallet , even if the government agency doesnt give all this good stuffs I stll can afford all this , seriously , vet in my country is not expensive at all . Honestly my country have a Animal Department which have a lot of qualified veterinary and they dont charge much and since they are governmental agency , they have the best equipment available in the market. Oh yeah, again , I am from Malaysia , its a tropical country, and we have plent of endangered and high price animals in the globe , I love my Chow alot .

4.Accept the fact dog should remain a dog , and i am here to share my ideas not to receive some baseless comments , anyway I do appreciate your comments and concern but please do not judge too early and make assumption too soon , As I mention my chow is absolutely in great condition physically and mentally , no dog that got locked up 24 hrs would be in that condition , You should know better. Thanks
I hope you dont simply post comments just because you feel you know better .
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ANY trainer will tell you to teach them to NEVER bite! As I said, my 10 year old has NEVER bitten. Not in play, not in aggression, not at all!

And I don't think I know better. I'm just clearly the only person who's gonna post the FACTS!

So, you're just trying to breed her to make money?

YOU asked for help. I offered help. YOU bashed ME!
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There is no point in this jess , he's not going to take any notice of anything that we say.

I just want to say just one thing myself- jess is right, a good trainer will certainly not tell you to teach your dog how to bite. You clearly are not a very good dog owner. Have you actually consulted a trainer about this??? I d
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There is no point in this jess , he's not going to take any notice of anything that we say.

I just want to say just one thing myself- jess is right, a good trainer will certainly not tell you to teach your dog how to bite. You clearly are not a very good dog owner. Have you actually consulted a trainer about this??? I think not- if you had then you would know that teaching her to bite is certainly the wrong thing to do. Just don't come crying to us if your nephew- or anybody else for that matter- gets bitten. We have tried telling you and you won't listen

You are such an ignorant person. We have been trying to help and give you advice but you just comeback with silly and offensive comments saying that we are not good dog owners, even though we don't need to teach our chows to bite because they don't an won't bite. I already know that you have lied about saying that your chow is sociable with other dogs- I clicked that link on your signature and on your website you have said that she is aggressive toward other dogs and then you laughed. What else have you lied to us about then?
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I know Becki. But ignorant people REALLY irk me...
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And me :evil: :evil:
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BeckiHutton wrote:What else have you lied to us about then?
His chow is also in his house in the video he posted on his blog...
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I didn't see a video...
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no wonder nobody comes to this forum. :P
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