Immunisations

[ChowLady]

Last night my parents lost one of their chow babies, they had their immunisations done on friday, which is a regular thing once a year. Then teniel gets sick and my parents phone the vet only to be told that she is alergic to them. The vet comes out and gives teniel something for pain, nothing to counteract the alergic reaction, hence teniel passed away last night. Does anyone else have the problems with alergic reactions to immunisations. I personally do not like this vet, as he came close to killing our Koysta with the wrong injections.
So now in a matter of days I have lost Teisha to cancer and my parents have lost Teniel to this.
I am thinking that the vet may have given the wrong injection.
Kathy

[Red Dragon]

Some Chows are allergic to lepto and corrona vaccines. Some can be allergic to any of them. If you are not comfortable with your vet you should find a new one. There are bad vets all over the world.

[jacqui]

Kathy,
I'm sorry to hear about your parents chow.I would definetly find another vet
Chyna was over vaccinated at 4 months old.she now has auto-immune diesease.she will never get another shot again except for rabies.

[fillyok]

I'm so sorry to hear about this. What a tragedy. I think Karin's (sit-by-the-beach) Chow or her previous Chow was a reactor. I haven't seen her post in a while, so maybe you could PM her.

[Jeff&Peks]

Immunizations are now being recommend every 3 or 4 years for adult dogs, don't know about puppies, I quit giving them to Pekoe 6 years ago but that has nothing to do with your problem. I would think a half way decent vet would give some kind of test before giving Shots he's not sure about or at least have a counter drug incase there is a reaction to the Vaccine. What did he do say he was sorry then offer them a free bag of dog food? thats the usual opps I killed your dog reaction.

[ChowLady]

I live in a differnt town to my parents and stopped going to that vet some years ago. I have a really good vet where I live now, and one that thinks of the animal not the $. Jeff he never even said sorry, thats the thing thats got me angry. Here in Australia most vets tell you that they need these Immunisations, but I have long ago stopped given them to mine. We do not have Rabies here in Australia so need to worry about that.
Kathy

[CoraP.]

I am very sorry to hear this. More and more, I am beginning to think the things I have been reading about over-vaccination are correct. I wish they would stop recommending once a year vaccines . I think I'm going to be refusing them except for the rabies.

[ChowLady]

I found this and thought I would share it.
Are they really necessary? - In a word, NO!

You probably receive an annual reminder from your vet that your dog is due for his/her annual checkup and vaccinations. I do.

But I don't have my dogs vaccinated any more.

For years I was hoodwinked into believing that vaccinations were essential to my dogs' health. Why else would my vet tell me my dogs needed an annual booster vaccination shot?

Why indeed.

I learned the answer when, after careful research, I decided not to expose my dogs to what I believe is unnecessary, and potentially dangerous, toxins, any more.

I received the letter from my vet as usual, advising that my dogs' annual checkup and vaccinations were due.

I made an appointment and arrived ready to do battle. I advised the vet that I had decided not to have my dogs vaccinated any more. She said "Fine."

That's right - after years of leading me to believe that these vaccinations were essential to my dogs' wellbeing, the vet agreed that they were not in fact necessary at all! She went on to stress the importance of still bringing the dogs in for their annual physical checkup (which was what I was doing, and certainly intended to continue to do).

So that's why we're all told that our dogs need annual vaccinations - it's simply a ploy to get us in so our dogs can be given a physical. Why not just tell us how important these annual checkups are instead of slowly but surely poisoning our dogs with these vaccines?

I don't have the answer to that, but I can tell you I was speechless.

I've now found out that all across America a new protocol for vaccinating dogs has now been issued and is slowly making its way to vets. (I haven't been able to locate a similar protocol for Australia, but I'm sure it's in the pipeline). This protocol does not recommend any vaccinations for dogs beyond 1 year of age!

Make sure you ask your vet next time a vaccination has been recommended for your dog - it this really necessary? And if you're not satisfied with the answer, consider getting a second opinion from another vet.

Side effects of this appalling over-vaccination which has been going on for years can be significant and severe.

[Jeff&Peks]

I think the puppy shots like with a human baby might be necessary but after that I wouldn't get any more unless its a booster after eating a rat or some wild life but most of the time they say a booster isn't needed. Some vets including Pekoe's oncologist think all these vaccines especially giving them every year might be one of the reasons there is so much Canine cancer, Thats one of the reasons they started moving the shots around on the back, dogs were developing tumors around the shot area later in life. As I have always said watch the meds most arn't needed and will cause more damage in the long run.

[Grab]

Rabies is required by state. But for the other vaccinations you can have a titer done, which will measure the immunity to the disease. It's not horribly expensive, and allows one to vaccinate only when needed.

[jacqui]

we were doing a titer every year but I just read you can wait 2-3 years before having it done again.

[fillyok]

My vet just issed a new newsletter with an article in it about vaccine updates. They're changing their vaccine protocols after identifying through research and studies that not all vaccines are needed on a yearly basis. This is good news for me because with 3 Chows X 3 yearly vaccines...it adds up quickly. (Tod goes to another vet.) Anyway, the article states that the previous yearly requirement for DAPP-L (distemper, adenovirus, parvo, para influenza and leptovirus) is going to a 3-year rotation. The only change is they will get DAPP every 3 years, but still need to get a lepto booster each year. Rabies vaccine will remain every 3 years after the initial puppy shots and bordatella is still required every 6 months for boarding, grooming, etc.

Does anyone else have this same routine? Every 3 years sounds good to me...not just because of the expense, but because of the vaccines themselves. In the military I had no option on getting immunized...can you say 9 anthrax shots and who knows how many typhoid and yellow fever?? Who wants that??? I hope I never have to get another immunization as long as I live.

[Rowlee]

Chowlady, that is just terrible. I am so sorry for your mum and dad. The vets sounds awful.

I too am in Australia (Perth). I will not be giving Wilbur any further vaccinations nor will the new chow puppy (Keiko) who is arriving next week get anymore, she's had her puppy shots and both Wilbur and Keiko's breeders have encouraged me NOT to vaccinate. I am not pumping chemicals into my babies that aren't needed. When I raised this with my vet, he himself said that he doesn't vaccinate his dogs but that in order to be able to vaccinate dogs with the drugs from the drug company, he has to agree to a certain protocol and that is giving dogs boosters every year!!! Otherwise the drug company will not offer any sort of "warranty" if the dogs do get sick from a disease they've been vaccinated against.

Sabina

[hattiecat]

I am sorry about the loss of your dogs. I have found a holistic vet for my new chow puppy and she is not an advocate for most vaccines. I have five children ages 18 down to preschool who have never been vaccinated after much research on our part. Some physicians believe vaccines are a medical assault on the immune system and I suppose this could pertain to dogs as well. It's a hard decision to make!

[Victory]

I'm very sorry to hear about your parents Chow. The vet is an idiot. Allergic reactions are treated differently than that, anti-histamines, and other drugs to open air ways etc should have been administered.

My chows get their Rabies shots, not only is it a state and county requirement, but also because if they nip or scratch someone, (people here are so weird) then they are protected more. I'm going to get a titer done before they get any more immunizations though, especially with Dreamdancer's allergic reaction to something a while ago, and the fact that his litter mate Ginger Lilly is allergic to her immunizations.