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WHY ARE WE BANKRUPT?


Informative, and mind boggling!


You think the war in Iraq is costing us too much? Read this:

Boy, was I confused. I have been hammered with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on terror that is bankrupting us. I now find that to be RIDICULOUS.

I hope the following 14 reasons are forwarded over and over again until they are read so many times that the reader gets sick of reading them. I also have included the URL's for verification of all the following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.

Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US

Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...2/ldt..01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht <http://tinyurl.com/t9sht>

12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'

Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.

Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm>

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million *Censored Word* crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States .'

Verify at: http: // http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml <http://ww w.drdsk.com/articleshtml>

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR AND IF YOU'RE LIKE ME HAVING TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY; IT IS $338,300,000,000.00 WHICH WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STIMULATE THE ECONOMY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.


Are we THAT stupid? YES, FOR LETTING THOSE IN THE U.S. CONGRESS GET AWAY WITH LETTING THIS HAPPEN YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!!!
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"11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border."

And 50.5 billion a year on Bushes homeland security and $255 million per day or a slightly less than $1.8 billion a week (wikianswers) spent on the Iraq war. Who is making 50 billion a year securing the US when all the security is in Iraq. Oh I know, its 50.5 million being paid to illegals to guard the US. Double quarter pounder with cheese please. large size. $7.02 = 2527.20 per year.
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May I upgrade that to "biggie" fries?
Our country is being extremely ill-managed. We should be screaming in the streets!
I get irritated when I read about some of the Bull shite programs we have, and then you look
at someone like Sharon, a U.S, citizen, who has worked all of or her life, now faces a situation where she
may have no job or health care coverage. It stinks!
So, what can we do...make some noise....
Write our congress men and women!
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bama wrote:May I upgrade that to "biggie" fries?
Our country is being extremely ill-managed. We should be screaming in the streets!
I get irritated when I read about some of the Bull shite programs we have, and then you look
at someone like Sharon, a U.S, citizen, who has worked all of or her life, now faces a situation where she
may have no job or health care coverage. It stinks!
So, what can we do...make some noise....
Write our congress men and women!
Exactly!!! Besides the illegals situation, we now have the democrats out of control with spending. I just saw on the news this morning that our national debt will go over 20 trillion dollars with Obama's new budget over the next 8 years. They are going to tax our fuel and energy, that means everybody pays. So much for all the promises of lower taxes. And just how is that debt ever going to be paid down? They think they are going to tax the top 2% to get the taxes, but it was analyzed and if they took every single dollar that the top 2% makes, they would still come up short. I have news for them too, the top 2% are going to retract and send their money overseas, that means even more lost jobs.

Here is what you do, look at how your house and senate representatives have voted on these issues, and if they voted for all this spending, do not elect them the next election, find someone opposed to the spending. You could pretty much vote to remove all democrats from office and it would be a safe bet it would be a vote in the right direction.
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Weren't the republicans "in charge" for the past 8 years?! Why did they not take care of these impending issues while they had the chance? Who took our debt and let it spiral out of control? What does this have to do with chows anyways?
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Most of the democrats in office seem to think that tax revenue is their money. It's not their money, it belongs to the people who have worked hard to earn that money. The democrats want to tax the hell out of anyone who has become successful and piss it away on socialist money pits. When the demoncrats tax big , evil companies, they think they are "recovering" money that is owed them.

And if you question Obama's wild spending, he will just remind you that "he won" so that's what America voted for. Bull shite. If Obama would have revealed his plans and ran on it during the election, he would have never been elected. People should have know better though, based on his record as being one the most Liberal senators in the nation.

Red Dragon, you might like my web forums. There a some sharp people over there and there can be some good political discussions.
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moohairs wrote:Weren't the republicans "in charge" for the past 8 years?! Why did they not take care of these impending issues while they had the chance? Who took our debt and let it spiral out of control? What does this have to do with chows anyways?
Bush warned in 2002 that Fanny May and Freddy Mac were in trouble and wanted to regulate them. The democrats shot that down in the name of providing homes for people who couldn't afford them. They basically wanted everyone to be able to buy a home. Look up Barney Frank the bank crisis and get back with us.

The democrats controlled both houses of Congress for the past two years and they have had an approval rating lower than Bush's. Barney Frank said that the lending institutions were in fine shape....nothing to worry about at all. Just make sure poor people get loans.

When Clinton was President, the Republicans controlled both houses and they balanced the budget.

When Bush took office, we were heading into a recession. Then 911 happened. He cut taxes and pulled us out of a recession. The Bush years were not bad at all on the economy, and that is while we were attacked on 911 PLUS two wars going on. Only recently did the housing market crash, and that was because banks were encouraged to give risky loans so poor people could have houses. That's a liberal idea, give people shite they can't afford. Again, look up Barney Frank.
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moohairs wrote:Weren't the republicans "in charge" for the past 8 years?! Why did they not take care of these impending issues while they had the chance? Who took our debt and let it spiral out of control? What does this have to do with chows anyways?
No, the democrats have been in control for the last two years. No doubt the republicans have blown some money too, but as a general rule they are nowhere near as bad as the democrats. This section is for what ever you would like to take about. The general section is solely for Chows.
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moohairs wrote:Weren't the republicans "in charge" for the past 8 years?! Why did they not take care of these impending issues while they had the chance? Who took our debt and let it spiral out of control? What does this have to do with chows anyways?
Bush warned in 2002 that Fanny May and Freddy Mac were in trouble and wanted to regulate them. The democrats shot that down in the name of providing homes for people who couldn't afford them. They basically wanted everyone to be able to buy a home. Look up Barney Frank the bank crisis and get back with us.

The democrats controlled both houses of Congress for the past two years and they have had an approval rating lower than Bush's. Barney Frank said that the lending institutions were in fine shape....nothing to worry about at all. Just make sure poor people get loans.

When Clinton was President, the Republicans controlled both houses and they balanced the budget.

When Bush took office, we were heading into a recession. Then 911 happened. He cut taxes and pulled us out of a recession. The Bush years were not bad at all on the economy, and that is while we were attacked on 911 PLUS two wars going on. Only recently did the housing market crash, and that was because banks were encouraged to give risky loans so poor people could have houses. That's a liberal idea, give people shite they can't afford. Again, look up Barney Frank.
Exactly, you can thank the liberals for this housing crisis and the loss of jobs. I do remember Bush warning them what would happen, but it was full steam ahead for the liberals! You can thank the democrats for the disaster we are about to be faced with, they are rubber stamping everything that comes out of Obama's mouth, there is virtually nothing the republicans can do about it either. :(
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Norman Thomas was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform."

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Norman Thomas was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform."

Norman Thomas, 1944
The sad part is you can stick that in the face of Joe Public every day, and they just won't get it until it's too late. There is a solution after it's gone too far though, it's called civil war. The american people have forgotten why this country was founded.

Think about it like this, alot of people realize what is happening and gun sales have gone through the roof, most guns are back ordered for up to a year that previously were on the shelves. Ammo is out of stock all over the country and has waiting lists. The gun shows are so crowded you can't hardly get in the door. I know people that have never owned a gun in their lives and are in their 40's to 60's, they have gone out and bought multiple guns, and stocked up on ammo. They haven't done this for no reason.
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nuke wrote:
Norman Thomas was a leading American socialist, pacifist, and six-time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of "liberalism," they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened." He went on to say: "I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform."

Norman Thomas, 1944
The sad part is you can stick that in the face of Joe Public every day, and they just won't get it until it's too late. There is a solution after it's gone too far though, it's called civil war. The american people have forgotten why this country was founded.

Think about it like this, alot of people realize what is happening and gun sales have gone through the roof, most guns are back ordered for up to a year that previously were on the shelves. Ammo is out of stock all over the country and has waiting lists. The gun shows are so crowded you can't hardly get in the door. I know people that have never owned a gun in their lives and are in their 40's to 60's, they have gone out and bought multiple guns, and stocked up on ammo. They haven't done this for no reason.

Yeah, I have more than a few gun owners on my site, and they have posted a few threads regarding the gun back orders. There are also people saying the same thing about a civil war. I think most Americans outside of the major liberal centers of NYC, Chicago, SF etc... really didn't swallow anything Obama said during the campaign. It's really a concentration of liberals in a few big cities that have swung the election due to the electoral system.

I'd like to believe that most Americans are people that actually work hard, own businesses, farms and such.... people who just want the government to stay out of their way and stop telling them how to raise their kids or how to live their lives. Most sane people don't want to be a rat living in a huge city where the government taxes the hell out of them so that bums who refuse to work can have a house and a car.
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The people on the gun waiting list are on back order because they are running a special offer, One sheet and a pillow case with each gun ordered and 6 months subscription to the grand wizard gazette.

There are so many opportunities with the stimulus bill a person would have to be brain dead not to cash in on it, The new Energy bills alone are going to be making me money, I have two friends that just started two new business and had to hire 5 new people last week, thats 5 people with jobs that were not working last week. I have to turn down work because I won't leave Pekoe alone all day.

As always its the complainers that sit back complaining all the time why the government isn't helping them and how screwed up they are and missing out.

Red Dragon, I hope I'm fit enough to make it to the bank everyday, I will be thinking of you.
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Here is the 2008 election map by county. The red areas voted Republican. They call those areas "fly over country" in the big liberal shite hole cities. What they mean is that the people in those areas are out of touch with the real America. The real America is only in DC, NYC and SF. The rest of us are just ignorant "chattering class" that clings to religion and guns. That's what they think.


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Jeff&Peks wrote:The people on the gun waiting list are on back order because they are running a special offer, One sheet and a pillow case with each gun ordered and 6 months subscription to the grand wizard gazette.

There are so many opportunities with the stimulus bill a person would have to be brain dead not to cash in on it, The new Energy bills alone are going to be making me money, I have two friends that just started two new business and had to hire 5 new people last week, thats 5 people with jobs that were not working last week. I have to turn down work because I won't leave Pekoe alone all day.

As always its the complainers that sit back complaining all the time why the government isn't helping them and how screwed up they are and missing out.

Red Dragon, I hope I'm fit enough to make it to the bank everyday, I will be thinking of you.
So what you are saying is you are one of the people that will suck the american people dry? What exactly is it that you are going to give them in return for the money you will take, as well as your buddies that started new businesses? I've seen this before, many times, new government programs with free money, so we have a new batch of freeloaders gobbling up the money. It's no different than Fannie May and Freddie Mac, just government gone out of control with spending and free rides.

I don't need the governments money, but I would sure like to have some of what I gave them back. I will do just fine, I will survive no matter what, because I live in the red zone! :mrgreen:
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The mortgage crisis is pretty much within 5 states: Nevada, California, Arizona, Florida, and Michigan. Except for Michigan, the other 4 states have the highest number of illegal aliens...hmmm...so the rest of America is bankrolling these illegals to stay in houses they should never have bought in the first place? - oh, wait! #-o once Obama gives them all amnesty, they will be citizens...
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There is a major problem here in Georgia with housing as well. they have stopped construction projects all over the place, even after they were started. Builders have gone bankrupt and the banks stopped giving loans. We have lots of illegals here too, in fact they started deporting them in Gwinnett county and the civil rights people are going nuts, somebody forgot to tell them they have no rights if they are illegal. #-o
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In Phoenix, the illegals started a movement to get a job center built for them so they could have a comfortable place to go to look for work in the morning.
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nuke wrote:In Phoenix, the illegals started a movement to get a job center built for them so they could have a comfortable place to go to look for work in the morning.
thats nice when theres not even work here for us :?
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nuke wrote:In Phoenix, the illegals started a movement to get a job center built for them so they could have a comfortable place to go to look for work in the morning.
Have you ever had a Ham and egg sandwich from the lunch truck at the illegal work center? now thats some fine eating. Phoenix has more to worry about with Illegal then starting work centers the city has been taken over by the Mexican drug cartel, there is more home invasions, beheadings, kidnappings and assassinations in Phoenix then there is in Mexico. However I do recommend a breakfast sandwich off the lunch truck, make sure it's the kind the lady cooks the food on the truck.

We hired 2 yesterday to move furniture across town all day, $50.00, two beers and MacDonald's. I should have ask you guys first to see if anybody needed a job. Need some extra cash Sam.
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nuke wrote:In Phoenix, the illegals started a movement to get a job center built for them so they could have a comfortable place to go to look for work in the morning.
Have you ever had a Ham and egg sandwich from the lunch truck at the illegal work center? now thats some fine eating. Phoenix has more to worry about with Illegal then starting work centers the city has been taken over by the Mexican drug cartel, there is more home invasions, beheadings, kidnappings and assassinations in Phoenix then there is in Mexico. However I do recommend a breakfast sandwich off the lunch truck, make sure it's the kind the lady cooks the food on the truck.

We hired 2 yesterday to move furniture across town all day, $50.00, two beers and MacDonald's. I should have ask you guys first to see if anybody needed a job. Need some extra cash Sam.
$50, two beers, and McDonalds wouldn't even pay my tax bill for one day. You just supported the people you are complaining about, so quit your whining or quit supporting them. =;
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Red Dragon wrote:$50, two beers, and McDonalds wouldn't even pay my tax bill for one day. You just supported the people you are complaining about, so quit your whining or quit supporting them. =;
Excusssse me? I'm not the one complaining its you thats whining everyday with 20 post aday. Chris brought up the illegal problem awhile back but all you people did was say how wonderful the illegals were and where would the US be with out them, Its the same people Complaining today that thought they were wonderful 2 years ago. You didn't care who was loosing their jobs to Illegals then so why care now. You people created the mess and the way you are living now not the government your the ones that shopped at wal-mart and 99 cent stores and preached how the immigrants built this country. The problem is no one cares as long as life is good for them but as soon as things go wrong they are the first to complain. You created the US of today so now live with it becouse it an't going to Change, you will be working for Ponchoe in a few more years if you arn't all ready.
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I was born and raised in the Netherlands,nice little country,quiet,not a lot of crime.
In the 60's the government decided "tolerancy" was the greatest thing.
So anybody that wanted to move to the Netherlands was more than welcome.
There were plenty of jobs most people didn't really want ,so the newcomers,mostly from Turkey,Morocco and in the later years,Vietnam,had no problems finding jobs picking tomatoes,or picking up garbage.
The government in the Netherlands thinks nobody should have to be poor.So,if you're unlucky and your health is bad,you get sick pay.
The first two days you only get half pay ,after that you get full pay,some companies will only pay 80 %,you can't be fired while you're sick
Lots of people from Morocco and Turkey had families back home,in countries where the cost of living is much much lower than in Europe.
So they got migraines,or they hurt their back.They would live in cheap apartments,and send their pay home.
Some of them would go back after they made enough money,some of them would stay and have their families come over.
Of course their families were all welcomed to the country,and housed quickly.

Since the last decade there are a couple too many immigrants in the big cities.
Waiting lists for rentals are 5 years or longer.unless......you just moved to the country from Morocco or Turkey!!
The cities are unsafe,whole neighborhoods terrorized gangs of immigrant teenagers.
They were raised between two cultures,one that promites tolerancy,one that sticks with the old ways.
They realized working 8 hours a day isn't worth it.You can just get disability and stay home all day.

In December,there is a week which is called "the holidays".No Christmas,we just toss the whole mix into one week and call it something that can not possibly bother anyone.
Of course the fact that the muslims in the apartment above you setting their alarm for 3 am during "ramadan" might be bothersome is overlooked.

A lot of people in the Netherlands wouldn't mind moving to the USA.
Some of them call the American Embassy,asking how they are supposed to get the paperwork.
They are laughed at.Yo can enter in the lottery,if you're lucky you can get a visa that way,or not.
You can try and find an employer in the USA.He would have a hard time proving he really needs you.
You can find someone to marry,pay a lawyer a fortune,be interviewed but immigration ifficers that ask all sorts of odd question while you're biting your tongue because they are obviously from Cuba and they never had to go through the process you're going through and their English isn't even that good!

You have to be checked out by a doctor,you're tested for aids and ever other disease you might have brought form a rough country like...the Netherlands???
If you're lucky and your lawyer does his job well,you get to stay with your new husband.For the first 5 years there is a restriction on your citizenship.
If you commit a crime,you go back.If you get divorced,you go back.
I was a good girl,so I get to stay.(Don't worry,I'm not taking up a job,I brought my own money and my husband pays the bills.My child was the best reader in class 4 months after we moved here and we only spek English)

A friends of hours,hard working girl,has her own house ,and enough savings.Fell in love with a boy in Rumania.
They tried to get him a visa.There are no visa waiver flights from Rumania,because the government there knows very well people may not come back.
After paying the government hundreds of dollars for empty promises,they realized it could take 5 years for him to get out,and they decided to break up.
He should have just gone on vacation to Mexico.Would have been so easy to just enter from there.

It should be mandatory for every American to live in Europe for a year.Not g on vacation there,but actually live there,try and found a place to live and a job to pay the bills.After that year I am sure a lot o people would vote differently than they have now.

Mind you,I am not complaining,I love this country or I wouldn't have moved here.Just hoping tolerancy ,change and sharing won't be taken too far.
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Jeff&Peks wrote:
Red Dragon wrote:$50, two beers, and McDonalds wouldn't even pay my tax bill for one day. You just supported the people you are complaining about, so quit your whining or quit supporting them. =;
Excusssse me? I'm not the one complaining its you thats whining everyday with 20 post aday. Chris brought up the illegal problem awhile back but all you people did was say how wonderful the illegals were and where would the US be with out them, Its the same people Complaining today that thought they were wonderful 2 years ago. You didn't care who was loosing their jobs to Illegals then so why care now. You people created the mess and the way you are living now not the government your the ones that shopped at wal-mart and 99 cent stores and preached how the immigrants built this country. The problem is no one cares as long as life is good for them but as soon as things go wrong they are the first to complain. You created the US of today so now live with it becouse it an't going to Change, you will be working for Ponchoe in a few more years if you arn't all ready.
Excuse me too! You have been complaining about the illegals and the gangs where you live, then you pay them to work for you. I've comlained about them ever since they started moving in. Never once have I given any of them a dime, and never will.

Immigrants did build this country, but they became citizens first. They came in, took their tests, honored our flag, and learned to speak engish. Then they became a useful part of society, they didn't come in and drain the system as freeloaders.
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Re: Why Are We Bankrupt......

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I don't complain I may joke about it and agree there is a problem with gangs but in reality it doesn't effect me at all, if anything it makes going to LA more of an adventure, will I make it home alive, Its like a thrill ride at Disneyland and it doesn't cost a dime. You, gangs, illegals, job loss, it just away of life, you eather live with it or you move. Like you, you bitch so much about the US why don't you move to China their thinking is the same as yours.
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