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2 HUSKIES ESCAPED OWNER CONTROL AND WERE SHOT BY MADMAN

Hello Everyone,

Please take a moment to sign this petition. It only takes about 3 minutes of your time! Christopher Comins is in the trial phase and will be going to court on the 3rd and 16th of March. Until then, let's collect as many signatures as possible to tell the Prosecution: No Plea Deals for dog shooters! We want to see Christopher Comins go to court to face what he has done to Hoochie and Raley, the 2 gorgeous huskies that were shot multiple times in the eye, neck, legs, and back. Maximum sentence for the shooter!

http://www.thepetit ionsite.com/ 1/max-sentence- for-dog-shooter Animal cruelty is a crime, and Orange County needs to take it seriously. Justice for Hoochie and Raley!

***Link to the video of the shooting: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=nhNOO0e1Kqw

Feel free to pass this onto your contacts, especially Orange County rescues and shelters, so they can be more aware of this case and help us get justice March 3rd and 16th.

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http://www.BrevardL ostPets.com ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ******** Reading the above put me to searching. My intent was to find out exactly what the MAXIMUM SENTENCE could be. It is my sad experience to have found too many cases in which the MAXIMUM SENTENCE for destruction or attempted destruction of furkids tends to be a slap on the wrist. One could spend more time in prison for possession of a small amount of marijuana than for toasting a dog in a microwave oven. My search was for "CHRISTOPHER COMINS" was far more revealing than the OrlandoSentinal. com article:http://www.orlandos entinel.com/ community/ news/lakenona/ orl-dogshot3108m ay31,0,1423694. story. http://publicintell ectual.wordpress .com/2008/ 06/06/barbarian- hillbilly- dog-shooter- christopher- comins/ gives clues as to why deputy sheriffs concluded that Orlando businessman Christopher Comins acted legally after developer Daryl Carter asked him to kill dogs "chasing cattle" on "Carter-owned" land. http://org2. democracyinactio n.org/o/5154/ t/3253/campaign. jsp?campaign_ KEY=508 gives the location of the court, the case number and contact information for writing to the state attorney. http://www.zbirdbra in.com/HoochieAn dRaleySampleLett ers.htm gives an indication of what action is availabe to those who agree that petitions are no substitute for personal action, even if you cannot be there in person. http://fortheloveof thedogblog. com/news- updates/investig ation-reopened- in-brutal- orlando-dog- shooting- petition- video tells us that this was not Comins first arrest for insane gun use. Seems there was a felony arrest in his past regarding gun use/abuse. Unfortunately the link ( - see more HERE) to http://myorangecler k.com/myclerk/ Details.aspx? SessionID= de7b76bc- 8e0c-4cbb- b545-1db1530b399 9&CaseID=4116168 ends up with a Your Session Information Cannot Be Found message. http://www.wftv. com/news/ 16464020/ detail.html? rss=orlc&psp=news tells us that Christopher Comins is a 49 year old (so youth is not his problem) and was charged with focusing his gun's laser site on his girlfriend's son's forehead. He pleaded no contest to a lesser charge and served one year probation. That is likely the cause and result of the prior felony arrest. Christopher Comins is still legally allowed to have a gun despite the felony arrest because he pled the previous gun charge down to a misdemeanor and the felonies were dropped. \
THE ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE INITIAL INVESTIGATION REPORT IS AT:http://www.ocso. com/LinkClick. aspx?link= MediaRelations% 2F08.28.08_ HUSKYFINALREPORT S.pdf&tabid=180&mid=1130 CHRISTOPHER M. COMINS RESIDES AT 10505 TYSON ROAD IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA 32832. Map: http://tinyurl. com/b3mryk DARYL MAURY CARTER, WHO SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH SOMETHING FOR SPONSORING CHRISTOPHER COMINS TO SHOOT THE HUSKYS, PROVIDED THE BUSINESS ADDRESS 3333 S ORANGE AVE., ORLANDO, FLORIDA 32806 (MAP: http://tinyurl. com/aoe6ka) AND BUSINESS PHONE NUMBER (407)422-3144 WHICH REVEALS A SECOND BUSINESS AT 908 DELANEY AVE. IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA 32806 (MAP: http://tinyurl. com/bt8cyn) OPERATED AS Mlc. THE S ORANGE AVE BUSINESS GOES UNDER Carter, Daryl M - Maury L Carter & Association Incorporated USING THE WEBSITE: http://maurycarter. com/.
I STRONGLY URGE ALL INTERESTED AND AVAILABLE PARTIES TO ACT WITH RESTRAINT WHILE PICKETING AND PROTESTING THE ACTIONS OF THE MADMAN AND HIS SPONSOR."Judy Burke" SENT HOLLY'S MESSAGE ON ASSubject: [The_Dog_Info_ List] Petition for Husky Dogs shot in FL for no reason - Please Sign Jane Klorer SENT JUDY'S MESSAGE ON TO Labrador_Retrievers @yahoogroups. com SO IT BEATS ME AS TO WHY IT NEVER GOT TO ME. DEBBIE SENT THE MESSAGE ON TO LISA, ADDING:
"Lisa please pass this on to Gerald, he loves Huskies, need to get him fired up and spreading the word!Hope all is ok with your dad.Debbie" On Sun, 2/8/09, Lisa Zito <sentola@hotmail. com> SENT THE MESSAGE ON TO ME. HAVING READ IT AND LOOKED INTO THE MATTER, I URGE ALL DOG LOVERS TO THINK OF THE POOR PROTECTION THAT FURKIDS HAVE UNDER THE LAW AND TO NOTIFY THEIR POLITICAL REPRESNTATIVES THAT THE TIME FOR CHANGE HAS COME. HAVING READ IT AND LOOKED INTO THE MATTER, I URGE ALL DOG LOVERS TO WRITE PERSONAL LETTERS TO ANY AND ALL THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE HEARING OF Orange County Circuit Court (425 North Orange Ave., Orlando, FL 32801) case #08-CF-0017830- O. HAVING READ IT AND LOOKED INTO THE MATTER, I URGE ALL (WHO HAVE THE ABILITY) TO MAKE THEMSELVES PRESENT, IN A CALM AND ORDERLY MANNER, WITH SIGNS ASKING THAT THE BOOK BE THROWN AT CHRISTOPHER COMINS AND HIS SPONSOR DARYL CARTER.
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Well, that is what happens when you don't control your dogs. The man had every right to do that, they were tresspassing and chasing his cattle. I don't know if that was a park or just a sidewalk, but that is irresponsable of the county to put a dog park next to a livestock ranch if it is a park, that is a recipe for disaster. Young valuable calves are killed by the hundreds if not thousands every year by neighborhood dogs and wild dogs, the result is always a dead dog if they are caught by the owner of the cattle. I'm actually pretty surprised the dogs lived, the guy must have been a terrible shot. Let that be a lesson to all that see it, if you think it would be funny to turn your dogs loose so they can have some fun with the livestock, better guess again.
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Your stupidly and back hills intelligence never ceases to amaze me. But you are a breeder so it shouldn't surprise me.

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Nothing backhills about it, it is actually quite simple. The farmer or ranchers livestock are their livelyhood, a couple of dead calves a year could mean the difference between a profit or going in the hole. The dogs are of no value to the farmer or rancher and present a threat, simple solution, eliminate the threat. I'm just telling you like it is and hope others learn a valuable lesson from it, so they don't loose their dog to a situation like this. Most of the time they would just shoot them with a high powered rifle from a distance.

By the way, those cattle are bunched up like that trying to protect their young. Better be glad their wasn't a bull in there or the bull would have killed the dogs, alot of times the mother of a calf will try and kill them too.
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Your point being meaningless as ever.

I don't ever expect you or sam to agree with me on anything that relates to an animals life, what i get from sam and you is expected hence the post, with you two fools i know my post will get read.. As for him being a breeder, breeding alone shows his total lack of regard for an animals life. How can breding and selling puppies for a living put him in a poition to agree with me.

Believe me Anytime i post anything about a chows life or any animals life you and sam are the first I expect to hear from and I get the response I expect.

As for intelligence I'm also amazed people trust thier kids with you but i guess thats why we have people like you and sam in the world.
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You crack me up Jeff, that part about me making a living selling puppies is about the most hysterical thing I have heard this year. :lol:

Let me put this in a way you can understand, so there is no misunderstanding. I love dogs as much as the next person on this board, but if somebodies dogs got after my cows or calves and intended to harm them, I would shoot the dogs too.

When all you bleeding heart liberals get finished with all your animal rights crap and make the laws to where people can't grow the food you eat because of all the laws, don't cry to anyone but your other bleeding heart liberals for your screw up.
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From what I've read about this story and have heard on the news and whatnot, the man that shot the dogs was not the cattle's owner. He didn't own the land either. And when he shot the dogs, they were both just laying/standing there, they weren't chasing them. Huskies aren't exactly herders. I'm sure there is more to the story but if the shooter had no right himself to be on the property, then why does he feel he can shoot anything on it? Even if he was the land/cattle owner, there were tons of people around, I'm sure he could've asked the dogs' owner to round the dogs up and put the leashes back on. And if the owner wouldn't, then call animal control, don't just shoot the dogs.

I signed the petition and if it weren't for having to be in DC for work, I'd be at the hearing as well.
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Don't ever leave Jonathan you crack me up you even make Red dragon look good.They actually turn a nut like you loose on kids?
Autistic or not no kid of mine would ever be left alone with you.Thats why I make sure mine go to private schools.
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jonathanfsu1 wrote:You have kids? That means you are making society worse by breeding more people like yourself..
Yep a daughter thats a degreed nurse with a seven year old son thats a straight A student, accomplished drummer with his own little kids band that just won two city tennis tournaments in his age division and a son-law that's a Sheriff. three true menaces to society.
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sdasilva27 wrote:From what I've read about this story and have heard on the news and whatnot, the man that shot the dogs was not the cattle's owner. He didn't own the land either. And when he shot the dogs, they were both just laying/standing there, they weren't chasing them. Huskies aren't exactly herders. I'm sure there is more to the story but if the shooter had no right himself to be on the property, then why does he feel he can shoot anything on it? Even if he was the land/cattle owner, there were tons of people around, I'm sure he could've asked the dogs' owner to round the dogs up and put the leashes back on. And if the owner wouldn't, then call animal control, don't just shoot the dogs.

I signed the petition and if it weren't for having to be in DC for work, I'd be at the hearing as well.
You didn't bother to read that I see, and you made a knee jerk reaction just like every other person that saw that and knows nothing about the situation or cattle. It said that the man was told by the owner to shoot the dogs, and they were chasing the cattle. Second, I am extremely surprised that man got as close as he did to those cattle, they were guarding young, that is why they were grouped up like that. A mother cow can kill you or mame you for life if she feels you are a threat to her calf, cows with young are nothing to mess with, and it's a good thing people weren't stupid enough to go in there and try to get the dogs away from them. City people are part of the problem in society, they know absolutely nothing about what it takes to feed themselves, all they know is they go to the store and get something off the shelf. Try and think about all the hard work that went into your next meal sometime, and when you eat your next hamburger, steak, or roast, thank a farmer for raising and protecting what you are eating.
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Kind of ironic, I just got this in part of my daily emails about cattle and farming. I would also like to add that if everyone wants to be mad at someone, be mad at the owner of the dogs, that person is the one that put his or her dogs in harms way.

Livestock Predators Likely to Be Someone’s Pet Dog


Problems with hungry, free-roaming dogs can look like a no-win situation for livestock owners — and sometimes dog owners, too.


“Other than we humans, the dog is the most widespread and abundant predator in Kansas. Compared to our native coyotes, dogs typically are also more difficult to control or keep from causing injury,” said Charles Lee, wildlife specialist with Kansas State University (K-State) Research and Extension.


Unlike coyotes, however, dogs that are hunting for themselves may not be truly wild (feral). They may have an owner who provides at least some regular care, Lee said.


“That can really complicate a situation. If someone can locate them, a dog’s owners are likely to have real trouble accepting the idea that good ol’ Fido is roaming around, stalking livestock,” he said. “At the same time, the livestock owner is likely to hesitate about antagonizing neighbors by accusing their dog of being responsible for the attacks — much less by just shooting their pet.”


This situation is far from rare.


“The fact is, over the 20-plus years I’ve spent dealing with dog-livestock conflicts, I’ve learned that most cases in Kansas, at least, are caused by domestic dogs — ones that have a home and owner,” Lee said. “When captured, many of these four-footed troublemakers are calm and may even wag their tail.”


With such dogs as the culprits, Kansas law can further raise the tension between pet and livestock owners, he warned. One statute says that if a dog kills, wounds or worries any domestic animal, the dog’s owner will be liable for all damages. Another says that anyone at any time can kill dogs found injuring or attempting to injure livestock.


The legal definition of “livestock” in the state includes cattle, swine, sheep, goats, horses, mules, domesticated deer, and all members of the ratite family that are not indigenous to Kansas (e.g., ostriches, emus, rheas). The definition does not include any wildlife that may be subject to dog attacks, Lee noted.


Feral dogs. Besides the domestic dogs that roam, Kansas does have actual feral dogs, the wildlife specialist said. They don’t rely on humans for anything. They typically respond to capture by crouching, snarling and lunging to bite — much like a wolf or coyote. Some were born and raised in the wild. Some are survivors that got lost or ran away from home long ago.


A third category of dogs on the loose is the canines that cannot rely on humans any more. They are pets, abandoned by their owner in the country and expected to fend for themselves.


“That kind of thoughtless or misguided abandonment can be fairly common near towns with transient populations — people who have to move, but can’t or won’t take their pet along,” Lee said.


Abandoned dogs are the least likely to do well in the wild, he warned. They don’t have the fallback position of a home base. They may have a hunter’s instincts but won’t have the practiced and honed skills needed to survive in the wild. They also won’t know anything about their dangerous new locale.


At best, they may be able to find and to be accepted by a free-roaming dog pack that includes skilled hunters. At worst, they’ll starve.


“If they can, abandoned dogs will gravitate toward what they know. After all, they have little fear of humans,” Lee said. “So, a number will end up eating from garbage cans, stealing other pets’ food, or killing house cats and other pets. Strangely, though, they’ll rarely eat all of their prey.


“They’ll simply be alley and yard raiders, in danger from humans all of the time.”


Devices designed to frighten, capture or kill predators can sometimes be effective in helping owners protect their animals from injuries or even death.


“In town and country both, however, good investigations by local authorities can be even more important,” Lee said. “The long-term solution to this problem isn’t simply to destroy dogs.


“Sometimes better livestock management can help — such as penning sheep at night. We also need better education for dog owners about their responsibilities. Think about how much trouble we could avoid if owners simply kept their dogs contained — protected from becoming predator or prey — particularly at night.”


— Release provided by K-State Research and Extension.
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2 HUSKIES ESCAPED OWNER CONTROL AND WERE SHOT BY MADMAN

Hello Everyone,

Please take a moment to sign this petition. It only takes about 3 minutes of your time! Christopher Comins is in the trial phase and will be going to court on the 3rd and 16th of March. Until then, let's collect as many signatures as possible to tell the Prosecution: No Plea Deals for dog shooters! We want to see Christopher Comins go to court to face what he has done to Hoochie and Raley, the 2 gorgeous huskies that were shot multiple times in the eye, neck, legs, and back. Maximum sentence for the shooter!

http://www.thepetit ionsite.com/ 1/max-sentence- for-dog-shooter Animal cruelty is a crime, and Orange County needs to take it seriously. Justice for Hoochie and Raley!
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Yep, maybe the owner should be prosecuted by the state for not controlling their dogs and causing them to be shot, makes more sense than the other garbage you're peddling Jeff. 8)
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Yep, Me and Obama all the way, At least it keeps you off the streets and away from the public.
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Jeff, I don't roam the streets and I try to avoid the public as much as possible. I have plenty of my own property I can roam, as can my dogs. 8)
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Red Dragon wrote:Jeff, I don't roam the streets and I try to avoid the public as much as possible. I have plenty of my own property I can roam, as can my dogs. 8)
Do you run around *Censored Word* and frolic in the medows?
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Is that anything like tip-toeing-through-the-tulips? :roll:
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Hmmm me gay, now that question has come up on a few occasions. Ya know I do have an interest in decorating, crafts, female make up and attire and woman love my taste when I buy them cloths. oh yeah and I do love San Francisco, Ya think?.... Sam are you interested in Courting and a sparking ( I learned that on Beverly hillbillies) I don't like cooking and cleaning though."'People are People no matter how gay or straight", Horton the Elephant

CHRIS!!!! am I gay?
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Red Dragon wrote: You didn't bother to read that I see, and you made a knee jerk reaction just like every other person that saw that and knows nothing about the situation or cattle. It said that the man was told by the owner to shoot the dogs, and they were chasing the cattle. Second, I am extremely surprised that man got as close as he did to those cattle, they were guarding young, that is why they were grouped up like that. A mother cow can kill you or mame you for life if she feels you are a threat to her calf, cows with young are nothing to mess with, and it's a good thing people weren't stupid enough to go in there and try to get the dogs away from them. City people are part of the problem in society, they know absolutely nothing about what it takes to feed themselves, all they know is they go to the store and get something off the shelf. Try and think about all the hard work that went into your next meal sometime, and when you eat your next hamburger, steak, or roast, thank a farmer for raising and protecting what you are eating.

Actually, I did quite a bit of reading about this even before Jeff posted about it. And just for your information, I don't live in the city, nor do I eat any sort of beef. Why are you always so negative and attack posters? Is your self confidence really that low?

And I never said the owner shouldn't take any responsibility. But I do think there are more civil ways to handle things than before just pulling out a gun.
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Red Dragon wrote: You didn't bother to read that I see, and you made a knee jerk reaction just like every other person that saw that and knows nothing about the situation or cattle. It said that the man was told by the owner to shoot the dogs, and they were chasing the cattle. Second, I am extremely surprised that man got as close as he did to those cattle, they were guarding young, that is why they were grouped up like that. A mother cow can kill you or mame you for life if she feels you are a threat to her calf, cows with young are nothing to mess with, and it's a good thing people weren't stupid enough to go in there and try to get the dogs away from them. City people are part of the problem in society, they know absolutely nothing about what it takes to feed themselves, all they know is they go to the store and get something off the shelf. Try and think about all the hard work that went into your next meal sometime, and when you eat your next hamburger, steak, or roast, thank a farmer for raising and protecting what you are eating.


Actually, I did quite a bit of reading about this even before Jeff posted about it. And just for your information, I don't live in the city, nor do I eat any sort of beef. Why are you always so negative and attack posters? Is your self confidence really that low?

And I never said the owner shouldn't take any responsibility. But I do think there are more civil ways to handle things than before just pulling out a gun.
I don't have a confidence problem at all, I am just tired of watching stupid people ruin this country. Like signing a petition because someone shot someones dogs, because they were tresspassing and harrassing livestock. They use to shoot horse theives in this country, then they quit, theft is out of control now, if it isn't chained down someone will steal it. When you take away someones rights to protect their property, they will end up with no property, and pretty soon, as in this case, you will end up with no food to eat!
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Jeff&Peks wrote:Hmmm me gay, now that question has come up on a few occasions. Ya know I do have an interest in decorating, crafts, female make up and attire and woman love my taste when I buy them cloths. oh yeah and I do love San Francisco, Ya think?.... Sam are you interested in Courting and a sparking ( I learned that on Beverly hillbillies) I don't like cooking and cleaning though."'People are People no matter how gay or straight", Horton the Elephant

CHRIS!!!! am I gay?
Jeff, I would rather not know what you left coast people like to do. Myself, like many others wish that part of the country break off and float out into the sea, we have pretty much had enough of gay rights and save the planet. The only green I care about is a green thumb, and if I never even heard about gays it would suit me just fine. 8)
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Ok, can we keep our personal issues of this board and talk about what brings us here?? No mudslinging....stop being mean to each other, if you have nothing nice to say, well, don't say it. Enough, guys. Let's end this topic now. :?
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Re: Not for all to see, Huskies being shot in park

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The topic was the Huskies being shot, red dragons point was it was private cattle land, He had his opinion I had mine we were both on topic If I see something offensive like breeding, training and rehoming I don't say keep the trash off the site. The General section, Chow fest, anniversaries and the photo gallery are for friendly non Chow chit chat, Community, Memorial, nutrition and Chows needing a home is the real world, it will get offensive to some on occasion.

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Re: Not for all to see, Huskies being shot in park

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I understand. I just hate seeing people being ugly to each other, we have enough of that in this country right now. Point made. 8)
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Re: Not for all to see, Huskies being shot in park

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I grew up in the rural area - my parents had dogs (German Shepards)...more than once the family dog joined the local pack and went after nearby cattle...one dog came home with a huge patch of missing flesh...the dairies around us had every right to protect their livestock. My parents had to take measures to contain the wayward dogs or understand they may be shot by local ranchers. I do not agree that the guy should have shot the Huskies - it was pretty obvious that the dogs were not threatening. I do think that the dogs should not have been out of control by the owner. I do think that the ba$tard that shot the Huskies was just looking for a reason to shoot. Huskies are not like other breeds that would attack and kill for the heck of it.
It's hard for the city-type people to understand the problems that ranchers contend with...in the area where I live, we see many issues that local ranchers face. For the ranchers, the cattle are their business and they have every right to protect it.

My two are in an enclosed backyard with a locked gate. Their saftey is a priority for us. While they are not in an area where they might mess with cattle, they are in an area of traffic where their life could be endangered. Hence, they are never outside of our backyard without being on a harness and leash.

I am so very sorry that those Huskies were shot but I am also mad at the owner not taking more caution to make sure his dogs didn't run off to the pasture of cattle. The owner should have been more responsible and made sure his dogs were properly contained....We take all measures to make sure our Chowlings are not put into a compremising situation...the Huskie owner did not do that.

The guy that shot the Huskies looked like he was just looking for a reason to shoot. It's really apparent the dogs were not bothering the cattle - even though the cows may have sensed a threat.

I see the side of the rancher wanting to protect his livestock but don't agree that the ba$tard that shot the dogs was justified in shooting them since the the dogs were not threatening the cattle. I also see two Huskies not threatening the cattle and did not deserve to be shot.
Karen, Kohana, Takoda, and our Chow Angels Nahkohe and Shiloh
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